STPM blues

Hey Melanie, that was a good post. I had 5As too in my SPM and I'm proud of it. =)

I was also not sure if I wanted to study Science in Form 6 but after my sis persuaded and explained all the opportunities for me, I went ahead in Science stream.

Well, unfortunately, my Chem sir sucked! He was one of the lousiest teacher ever. But, we could not depend on our teachers all the time, so we also learnt to be independent and studied hard.

Form 6 is not easy and is never going to be easy. Science or Arts, it's the same. Both sides need diligence, hard work, and determination. No wonder some of my friends always remarked that STPM was the 3rd most difficult exam in the world. I am inclined to agree with them.

To those who opt to go to Form 6, be prepared for thick books, lots of notes, lots of Math exercises, and should also be very well prepared in case you get lazy teachers. Never depend on your teachers. If you get a really dedicated one, then lucky you.

That's all. =)

Hie thr Josette! Thankx for complementing on my post! :)

It's true wt you say , never depend on any teacher. I had this lousy MUET teacher who keep looking down on our english. (cz i was in arts) and she could'nt be bothered to teach us. So i had to study all by myself . My friends who depend on the teacher scored really bad even when they took it for the second time.

Teachers are just guiding you. They do not determined your good results. :)

I've been visiting your blog everytime i'm online and been promoted to my students. Yes I'm a Form 6 teacher,currently teaching Economics Paper 1.
I never had an experienced studying in Form 6 as I continue study in diploma level.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince all of you to love your teacher, but I can't agree on one thing, 'lazy teacher'.
From my experience with my colleagues, especially the first year teaching STPM level (2004/05), I found out a few of them have this policy of hands-off. STPM student is a pre-U student, so let them 'feel' the way THEY felt as a first year student in university. Let the student be prepared for themselves. Berdikari is the buzz word.
However, I don't agree with them 100%. What I know is all student needs to be self-motivated, willing to study by themselves or among themselves, but as a teacher, as long as there is an opportunity, I will ask them to see me for further discussion a the selected topics.
My point is, "Lazy teacher" is not all but maybe he/she is the hands-off teacher. How to know if he/she is lazy or not. Find out if he/she is teaching SPM level as well. If he/she have been hardwork on spm student, then IMHO they not lazy, just giving you some space while taking breathe before starting extra classes for SPM students.
But again, I'm not writing here on behalf of all teachers, simply one opinion.
BTW, I will suggest this post to my student.

I wouldn't use the term 'lazy teacher'. I don't even bother to label them at all.

I know it's frustrating to have teachers who are not able to help us. I've been through the same thing during my Form 6. However, I was lucky to have a very motivating Economics teacher.

On the first day of our class, she reminded us the purpose of studying in Form 6. If we have no intention to pursue our studies in (especially in local) university, it was better for us to quit then. She made us realized the purpose we were there in her class.

Regardless of what type of teachers you have in your class, in the end, it's all up to you. Because in Form 6, if you want to get into university, you have to earn it yourself. If you think you need extra guidance, engage with a good tuition teacher. Make lotsa notes and non-stop revision. Discipline is the key word here.

Perhaps a little competition with your schoolmates will help. It worked for me and my ex-schoolmates.

One day, if you are able to get your favourite course in your chosen university, you will realize how proud you are with all the efforts and sacrifice you have made.

hello thr Hcfoo! thankx for taking time to read my post! :)

hey, i got a good econs teacher in form6 too! she was the one that motivated me a lot to study. and like i said , we are the one who determined our result. No matter how good the teacher is , it is still up to us. besides, they're not the one whose goin to the uni.it's us! maybe i should make this my next post! :) cheerss

I think there are 2 kinds of teachers.

The really dedicated ones who really teach, for example, both my Math teachers, Biology sir, and Chem teachers from the other classes.

The other kind is the one who does not bother to teach properly. They read aloud from the computer screen, word for word.

Hey, I'd rather take the CD he's using, put it into my own computer at home and listen to the narrator whose English is better. My Chem teacher had the ability or talent to change perfect English into broken English.

I agree with Josette's comment that "I'd rather take the CD he's using, put it into my own computer at home and listen to the narrator whose English is better".

Our government has spent a lot of money in preparing the teaching aids in the form of compact disc (CD) for Science and Mathematics subjects like Chemistry, Physics, Biology and Mathematics T. In my school, my Pure Mathematics teacher often uses the CD for teaching us. It has audios (sound), colourful videos, attractive animations, short notes and exercises, making the teaching and learning processes to become more exciting and interesting.

For other subjects, my teachers seldom use the CDs. Instead, they teach us using the reference books. I tried to borrow the CDs so that I can burn a copy each and play them using my own computer at home. However, my teachers were reluctant to lend them to me because "these CDs are provided by the government to the teachers as teaching material in class teaching only. They're copyrighted by Ministry of Higher Education and you're not allowed to make a copy of it yourself." What a cute reason!

Thank you Melanie. Your post gives me a view into the life of Form 6 students. As I've said before, I'm going to go through the same thing as you as I'm a Science stream student during my SPM years. Moreover, I don't think any of my friends will move to the Arts together with me since they're like the majority of the Malaysian society, Science is always better than Arts. However, your post and your experiences have proven that Arts and Science are equal. As I'm still waiting for my SPM results which will be out soon, I've been thinking a lot whether is it a right thing to do to switch streams and I hope that my choice of moving to the Arts will be a right choice for myself when I enter Form 6 this year. And I would like to wish you and everyone best of luck in your SPM and STPM and may you all achieve your desired results.

I get C in my chemistry,biology and physic.I want to study Science in Form 6. Is that mean I am going to fail at STPM or I am not suitable to study Science but I don't want to study at Art.

harlow there anonymous :)

well , nobody can say that u will fail STPM. or rather nobody can tell you which streams u suit better.

what i wrote above is what i've been through.. and it's juz a guidance.

and , ONLY YOU , and YOURSELF , knows the best. If you think you're better off in SC , then Sc stream it is.

Form 6?
Form 6 = Fun.Stress.BurntAss.

Burnt Ass = Few KG of Chem/Math/Bio notes.

Stress = Rushing day and night for the syllabus

Fun = Overrides all above,the experience you get in F6.The satisfaction after STPM.

F6 = FxSxB !! LoL :D

I get 5c's in Chemistry,Biology and Physic.Can I still go to science stream in form 6?

hie anonymous :)

No one can stop u from goin to science stream. The question is , can u cope later ?

Know your own abilities. No one knows it better than u.

Good luck

Hello Melanie,

It was indeed a good post and I was very much pleased to have read it. I was quite surprised by the many similarities we have when reading your post. I have recently searched for many sites to understand more about the Form 6 life and luckily my eyes have caught this site.

Like you, I was also a Science stream student in Form 4 and 5. In Form 4, I have scored quite well in the Science subjects, as in Physics, Chemistry and Biology but moving on to Form 5, the results were always bleh. Managed credits but not really good. Mind you, I was beginning to feel that I'm able to score just because I can if I want to but I don't anymore since the subjects were becoming unenjoyable to me *chuckles*. I actually wanted to study Accountancy but I stayed in the Science stream instead only because I had to. Having taken the SPM in 2006, my results were not what I've expected. Again, like you, I managed only 5A's out of 11 subjects. It was quite a blow but what's past is past like some would say. Recently, I was offered a place in Form 6, Science stream once again. Knowing I'm not going to bother studying Science subjects again, I'm determined to switch to Arts later on. As you've said, I'd be commiting suicide if I take the Science stream again.

Having read and beginning to understand more about entering the hectic world of Form 6, I'd like to ask a few questions just to clear things up. I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I might as well ask away.

Considering I'm going to switch to Arts stream in Form 6 and there are many subjects offered, which 4 subjects should I take? I have a great interest in English and Accountancy but I'm still not sure which field I'll take when furthering my studies in university later on. Be it English where I can take TESL, etc or Accountancy which obviously I'll be able to study Accountancy. Any tips for that? Say..what subject should I take for either my interest in English or Accountancy?

Also, I now understand that the Arts stream is just as hard as the Science stream so I'm determined to not waste my time. Having an offer to Form 6 is much like a 2nd chance for me to do better than what I've achieved for my SPM. Having read your post has really made me think *grins*.

For that, thank you for the useful words of yours. I'm sure I had tonnes of questions before but it seems that most of them are already answered when going through the information on this site. Although, if I have some more I'll certainly ask but this is it for now though.

I'd appreciate any feedback on my previous questions.

All the best,
Syasha :]

I got 3Cs in my science subjects in spm and I still want to do science in STPM. I am willing to work extra hard and put my heart and mind into it, do u think I should go arts instead? But I am very determine to do science.

yeah, i know i'm making a history by doing that, and few people would really believes that I can perform, but nvm, thanks anyway, juz bless me. I will work as hard as you did in my prefered stream and get the good grades!

Hello Syasha!

Thank You for taking your time to write such a long comment.

I'm sorry but im not quite sure if there's a subject for English in STPM? all i know is just MUET.what i suggest is you take accountancy , and do well in your MUET. MUET Is a must in form 6. so , you would have a choice when u go uni to whether continue with TESL or Accountancy. Where else if you're taking English (if thr's a subject for English ), it'll be difficult for you to cope if you're taking accountancy in UNI. Accountancy is not an easy subject tho. I've seen my frens getting ZERO for their accounts exams. Many would drop accounts and go for Maths.

I wouldn't encourage you to take BM tho. You would be surprise many would fail their BM in STPM. BM is really tough in form 6.. and you're hearing that from someone who scored an A in her BM. (i got an A).I would say NOTHING IS EASY in form 6.

It's good to give yourself a second chance to do something to proove to ppl u can do it. AND getting straight A's in SPM DO NOT determine you getting good results in STPM. i have many frens who score much better than me in SPM, but you know what? NON of them won me in their STPM results. I got 2A's and 2B+ btw.A Satisfactory result. I know ppl judge me saying im in arts , but again , at the end of the day it's the ALPHABET that matters. NOT THE SUBJECT YOU TAKE.

But again! Hey , guess what ? in my school (my school is one of the top in the state) , there's LOTS of science side who got pretty lousy for their Pengajian AM.

Use the second chance you have! Proof to ppl YOU CAN DO IT!
Good luck girl!

Andrew Ho,

I wish you all the best. You can do it if you believe you can!SPM RESULTS DOESN'T DETERMINE YOUR RESULTS IN STPM!

Good luck!

Hello again Melanie ^__^,

First of all, thank you so very much for giving a useful reply. My options and knowledge on STPM have become a bit clearer right now.

I've decided not to take Accountancy after all :P I've been adviced by many not to and I do think it's fine with me. With that, it's back to the start again. I'm in such a blur in choosing which subject I should take. I know for sure General Studies is a must but for the other 3 subjects, I'm still not quite sure what I should take.

I know there isn't any certain subject for English but since I'm in such a blur with the whole getting into Form 6 thing, I was actually wondering which subject I should take so I can take English-related courses in any university after STPM. Any thoughts on that?

So..any help for me on choosing which subjects I should take? Right now, it'll be really helpful if I get advice on taking which subject. I'm in such a state of not knowing what to do, I feel awful.

What subjects have you taken for your STPM, Melanie? Would you mind sharing about it and how much it helps in securing a university course you want to take in the near future? I'm just intrigued in how the subjects we take will ensure what course we're able to study in university later on.

Thanks again for the advice and encouragement. It means so much to me considering I had no idea at all about the Form 6 life and STPM before. Teehee.

Syasha :]

Hey mel!!

U realli hav a gud post there gal! Wel after readin it im kinda Nt confused anymore b4 steppin in form6 dis comin tuesday..Similar to U im a pure science stud n managed to get oni 6a's..wel now i intend to switch stream to the arts! But the prob here for me iz i hav a passion for actuarial science and want to pursue it later as my degree! This actuarial science degree( i do not whether U hav heard bout it ) consists of 70%mathz topicz n de rest is business related! I heard from my peers that if i were to go science stream then i cannot take Mathz T which is only allowed for the science stream students! Are they right bout this??..Or is is still possible for me to pursue this degree with Mathz S??..If after 2yearz doin f6..N den i hav no regards doin this degree im planning to switch my career choice either to accountancy or finance. Will i be able to cope up with accounting in form6 without any basics of it?..im willing to work hard bt there are sum Nutz who r discouragin me to not to take up acc in f6! i mean everythin'l be hard if v don put in effort..Well im planning to take up accounting,eco,pa and MATHZ(dis is de exisiting prob 4now)..i realli need ur help as soon as possible..If u cud reply to my mail it would be much more convenient for me! Anywayz i'd like to thank U in advance..souls like u outside there who hav helpin mind..im sure'l be blessed by GOD! ps; i hav no guidance from ma folks..N frens!..TX=)

-Janane- (sporty_scorpio5@yahoo.com ; sporty_scorpio5@hotmail.com)

Syasha,
If you want an English-related subject, how about Literature in English? I took it myself at SPM level and loved it. ^^

Anonymous,
According to Doctorjob (July 2006), you are allowed to take Mathematics T even though you are in the arts stream. You are also allowed to take both Mathematics T and S if you wish.

Snow, sorry to point out that "[y]ou are also allowed to take both Mathematics T and S if you wish" is not true or a wrong fact. It's clearly written on my Peperiksaan STPM 2007 Arahan dan Panduan Pendaftaran Calon Sekolah/Institusi that a candidate cannot take both Maths T and Maths S at the same time. Read this comment.

There's a reason why I invite people to correct my mistakes. ;)
Hmm. I'm not sure. That's just information I got from Doctorjob, I double-checked. o_O Oh well. I'm sorry,it must have been a mistake in the printing. Maybe I should file a lawsuit against Doctorjob... XD Kidding.

Hey!!

I've read both (snow & chong)'s post! Tanx 4 answerIn ma QueZz..so i cant take both Mathz..Wel can i take maTz T tho im in Arts?..Does doc.job got that part right?..

TaNx again 4 helpin me Out!

MuChaZ GraCiaZz=)

-Janane-

Hello Syasha.

sorry for the a lil late reply.

For yr info , i took BM , ECONS , business and PA. Econs and Business are pretty tough , so it's quite a clash to take both. I din have the chance to choose. It' really got me crazy when i was studying. I wud suggest you to take either econs or business and take Mathz. Again Maths in f6 are a lil like Add maths. Is your Add maths good?

About securing a place in uni.. which uni are you talking about? if you're talking about private uni , there's definetely a place for you. if you're talking about public uni , i guess the ONLY way to secure a place is by scoring well. It doesnt really matter what subject you take in STPM. The most important is the "alphabet".

Enjoy and cherish your form 6 life. i MIss mine a lot! :)

Janane,

I'm sorry, I really don't know anymore. Wikipedia says the exact same thing as Doctorjob. X_x
I asked a friend of mine who took STPM a year or so ago and she said it's possible for a student from the Arts Stream to take Mathematics T, though. Then again, that could be outdated information. Anyone care to verify or disprove this?

Hey Snow..

Wel hi! Hmm..i have gotten back into skol for once..N i hav met my Maths teacher and asked him bout this Maths issue! He wasn't sure too so he offered me de Majlis Peperiksaan's directory..and i called em to verify And guess what..they dio let mr take up Mathz T!! So to those ppl out der wonderin whether an arts stream students can take up Mathz T..well the answer is a yes! But do consult ur teachers and let em know! FOr all the help regarding this i would like to thank snow N chong for replyin ma postZz..! Keep on doin gud deedZz! God bleSz!

-Janane-

Hey Melanie.. I glad to hear bout ur xprnce while u in form 6. I had 5As too in my SPM. Some may say dats was a gud result, but not for me. I only got 5As out of 12 sbjct dat i took. We r in da same boat, I'm going through the same thing as you as I'm a Science stream student during my SPM years, but I`m da one who DO NOT LIKE science sbjct.. i only love add math. When i got da offer to continue my study in f6, i av been offered to go for science stream. I manage that i cant do well in my STPM if I still in science stream, so I switch off to art stream. Everybody look down to me and i really hate that. Most of them think, being in art stream is not popular as students in science stream. Eventhough how they say, now understand that the Arts stream is just as hard as the Science stream so I'm determined to not waste my time. Having an offer to Form 6 is much like a 2nd chance for me to do better than what I've achieved for my SPM. I won`t regret for being form 6 arts students. hopefully i can go through in my STPM 2007.

Anonymous:

i wish you all the best! Trust you will enjoy your form 6!

Anonymous :

Trust me* you

Hi Melanie,
I am a form 6 student currently and doing my upper 6 now.My condition was exactly like u, I switched my stream to arts. I am taking history for my major instead of other arts subject. Therefore, I am pretty sure whats the feeling of writing non-stop even though the hand can't move anymore.well, some of my senior just got their results recently. One of them got offer from the National University of Singapore which ranked 19 in the world by year 2006. So, i definitely deny the fact that most ppl say that form 6 students will just end up in local universities. If you are smart and pass the exam with flying color, you will be the one who making the choices.(that senior even got offer from Nanyang University anf UM)
Well, Melanie. This post is fantastic and I am sure I will visit your blog next time. All the best~

~Clautis~

Clautis :

yea, form 6 to me is something much much better than college. You can get into uni by "earning" it. My result's out yday and i got offered to UUM in Kedah. Im pretty happy bout it , altho i noe Kedah is quite dead. But that Uni is the no.1 in Msia for business studies.
i wish you all the best , and remember , form 6 is a one shot thing! If you don't do well , you cant pay to re-sit! so, Good luck! Enjoy your form 6!!!!

hi,Im new here.i just found this website.Wish i could earlier know about this blog.Apologise if dont understand what i wrote.My english is not that good(trying to improve it as Im worrying my MUET)." DO NOT GO FORM 6, It's a waste of time",I always listen from other ppl.But they said form 6 is difficult.Therefore,they keep saying study in college is better.T.T.Lastly i decided to study form 6.hmm actually i want to ask about,if i want to study architecture this course,do i need to take subject visual art?i hv asked many ppl,they said its better to tk the extra course since architecture is combination of science and art.Besides,with extra visual art sub,its a better advandage they might let u studying architecture in local uni.So,im still confusing about it.If its unessesary,then i dont want to take because physic,chemistry,maths and co-curiculum activities are driving me 'crasy' and busy around.Futhermore,the visual art teacher is always 'disappear'.Its depend on your luck to find him.he seem to be a busy teacher in or outside school.T.T...thanks if reply this.

hey Melanie, it feels good to be encouraged by your post. I'm in form 6 and it's not a waste of time. In fact it's fun!

the friends,the teachers...Everything!

I hope all sixth formers reading this won't regret their choice :)in choosing this path.

Regards,
-blackmartini-

Sorry , i hadn't been available to reply the comments. was really tied up with uni. my apology to all :)

geez..it was such a relief reading ur article, seriously i can relate to all this cuz i was an ex science student who switched to arts in form 6..now I'm heading' 2 upper six..n i tot i made a mistake (some told me i had less job opportunities, bla blah), but i guess not..gr8 article..it helped

Hi there Melanie..
Nice to meet you, I am SPM candidate 2007 and now i'm waiting for the results, since i finished my exam.

I am thinking , I maybe want to go for SOFTWARE ENGINEERING.. just maybe,not sure yet or maybe other in ENGINEERING , and i was thinking to continue my study in FORM 6,Science Stream ... is there a good suggestion??
I hope i can get your opinion as fast as possible ..
Thank You and sorry , my English is not very well.

shamzi ; im glad it make u feel better ! =D

Tomyamsup : i guess you have to made up yr mind on whether u want to have software engineering first. dont worry about not having a good english. :)

Hi there again , Melanie ..

I'm thinking to take I.T courses, like Software Engineering , Programming , Computer Science , Internet Technology , and a lots more , but I dont know which want suits me and interesting to me ..

Also , Form 6 have Physic and mathematics , which is good to me, and maybe other in engineering which i also intereted to it..

Eloo there tomyamsup,

Considering that you're thinking of taking up Science stream in Form 6, the subjects offered are usually paired up like so:
Physics/Biology
Chemistry
Maths T.

In your case, you'd most probably choose Physics instead of Biology since you're interested in taking IT courses.

You could also take an extra subject if you're up for it. Taking into consideration of what the pre-requisites are for certain IT courses, you could take Computing (as far as I know, it's rarely offered in schools), Maths S, Further Maths T or even Economics.

If you're still unsure of what course you might want to take in the future, try going to university sites for further information. It helped me a lot in figuring out what I will be taking after STPM. Helped me have an aim too.

All the best then!

Well , Thanks for the advice Syasha, it really helps me .. =)

And there is last question for me to ask , If i failed my History (SEJARAH) , will i able to go in Form 6 ??

Sorry for the previous post , its a bit confusing ..

No prob! Glad to help actually. I was once clueless about the whole Form 6 stuff too so I understand.

As for your question, yes you could still manage to enter F6. I have a classmate who, believe it or not, failed most of his papers but managed to enter F6. However, he was able to do so only after he sent a letter of appeal and also because there is more than one intake. I believe he was among the students from the 2nd or 3rd intake.

It all depends on the merits accumulated according to your grades actually so don't fret. I'm sure you'll do fine in your SPM ^^

Hi everyone,i have just got my spm results and i managed to score 4As and 7Bs and it is certainly a big blow to me.

I have got 3b for both my chemistry and physics,and a 4b for my biology(I used to score good grades in 3 science subjects but results in spm really turn me down).

However,it won't deter me from continuing pursuing sciences.I have actually planned to apply for scholarship to further my studies but i guess with a poor result in SPM i can hardly be awarded although i possess certificate in advanced english awarded by Cambridge University.I wouldn't spend my parents money unless i have no choice.

After looking at the posts of Melanie,studying in Form 6 has definitely intrigued me although I have not really considered taking STPM.

Here are my questions anyway.

1)Will I be notified if I get admitted to a form 6 class?

2)Is there any chance of getting scholarship with 4As and 7B in SPM examination with good speaking skill and possesion of international certificate?I hope if anyone can answer me,so what I do won't be a waste struggle.

I would be delighted if any of you can enlighten me as soon as possible.

hi i just got my SPM result and i got only 3A's. i want to take up biotech but i'm not sure if i'm able to take up science stream for form 6? btw, i didnt credit biology but i passed. can i? and if i get qualified for form 6, what subject should i take for biotech? i'm also considering computer science.

please help. i am very confused about my future.

Hi everyone. i didn't do well in my SPM but i was a science stream student. what are the qualifications to enter science stream for form 6 and is business information technology a good choice for the future in case i can't enter form 6 science? please help

*desperado*

Those who said STPM is easy is DUMB
They have never experienced it, or they have never tried to get A in stpm.
HELL, for each subs we have to read books which each of them is as thick as the dictionary, and you could comment this exam as "easy".
Ever heard of UEC?The cert given to Private chinese high school students. Many claimed it to be "tough". I took both STPM and UEC, have to say that STPM is FAR TOUGHER than UEC.
Im a science student, but i never think that art stream is easy. I've frens studying economic, I tot one of the test book and read, the theory inside is brilliant!
"Who could ever figure out these stuff oh..." This is what first came into my mind.
Some ppl juz love to judge something without having any understanding.
Anyway, congrats author for choosing whats stream u like, and whats fits u.
I chose science stream becoz i loves physics and maths, but im really untalented in Chemistry which requires big brain to memorize things.
So instead memorizing thick books in chemistry for over 2 months, i failed to score A too, so pity wtf.

Hi melanie,
I juz got my spm result,it was bad actually,only 3'As.Many people said that my result is not too bad.I had a problem with my parents,they insist to send me in U.I know their intention good.But the problem is,i want to study science stream in Form6.

I already talked to them.They said 'they pity on me coz if i study in form6,i have to "pecah otak" when study'.My aunt talked to me that study form6 was wasted of time,it was hard.

And i felt very sad..I really want to study in form6..

Please help me..any advices?????
Sorry,my english language is bad..

-BabyRose-

Well, since Melanie is not around for quite some time, I'd help a little bit to solve your ER enquiries...

@BabyRose - STPM is, no doubt, one of the harder exams available, but there were successful cases where people did well in STPM even their SPM results were not good. All you need to do is consistency in studies and work hard!

Studying Form6 is not wasting time at all consider all the benefits that you can gain from it. I don't want to say much cause I've already posted an article about Form 6 life here. Look around in this blog and you should find your answer...

@Anonymous - Well, for your info, I do agree with you, that STPM is never easy. STPM is tough, but you can go through the exam easier with consistency in studies as I said earlier. Find more details on Form 6 in this blog.

*desperado* - How was your SPM results? I don't know about the qualification to enter Form 6 right now but it should be easy. Few years back they were calclating your gred points as the qualification. Take your best 3 to 6 (I forgot how many exactly) subjects and add up their gred point, you would be considered qualify as long as it's below 18 marks for science stream if not mistaken. (Example: Best 5 subjects, B4,B4,A2,A1,C5 total 16 points below 18 points than qualify.. this is outdated, please consult your school teacher for latest updates on the qualifications)

@Henry - 1)Yes. But the results will be through your previous SPM school. You may want to check with you Form 5 school.

2)It really depends on what scholarship you are applying. Forget about JPA, Petronas and those prestigious awards as it is even hard for straight As students to get them. But there are lots of grants/small scholarships which would award you some cash. (like those Chinese ethnic association/clubs etc...) Do open your eyes and be more sensitive to environment.

I notice that some of your questions are actually overlapped with some of other posts posted in this blog.

Do spend some effort and read through them as they might solve your emergency.

Hi BooNBoX,
Thanks for ur advice.I really appriciate that.

First of all,i really need some advice on form6,I'm interested in human resources(HR).I would like to apply IPTA after form6.'Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Sumber Manusia'.

Which subject do u think i should take in form6??
Bm is compulsory subject??If not compulsory,i would like to drop the subject..
I planning to take Bm,History,general study,economics,math s.Do you think it is a right option??
please help me..

-BabyRose-

hie anonymous,
Bm is not a compulsory subject.It is advisable to drop if u're weak in BM coz i know many ppl who fail their BM. However if u are good in BM, it could be an easy paper to score.And about ur option in the subjects you're taking , yes, it is a good choice. History can be tough if u're nt into memorising.. u can take Business as another option. It does involve memorising as well but it is easier

Hye melanie,
Its me again,i'm not sure if i'm good in Bm or not.On my spm 2007,i got B4.It was teribble.In my past exam i usually got good marks in Bm..

I'm afraid to take math s bacause it is same like add maths.My math was A1 but my add math was C6.Usually I'm not pass add math.I think i'm commiting suicide if i take math s.

Between Bm and History,which is more easier??

-BabyRose-

I'm not trying to offend anyone here, especially the writer... i really agreed with some of the things that she wrote here... but to be frank, Form 6 Art stream is DEFINITELY easier than Science stream... I knew it coz i myself also use to be a science stream student in form 5 , and switch to art stream in form 6... and i really found that it is not as tough as wat my fren studied in science stream.... Dun get me wrong, coz i am not saying that Form 6 Art Stream is not tough, it is tough, just that, when compared to Science Stream, Science is tougher..... therefore, in terms of "toughness", i dun think that Art stream = Science stream... They are not of the same level....

Hi there. If I'm going to take law in university, what subjects should I take in form 6?

I prefer PA, Bm, Econ. and Business. I'm quite afraid to take history as i only scored B3 in my spm and in form 6, one needs to study 4 history books, ie Tamadun Dunia, Tamadun Islam, Sejarah Malaysia and Sejarah Asia.

hey all,like other blogger in here,i also got 5As in my SPM result and i got an offer to do science when i was in form 6 (currently in Uitm right now taking diploma business) yeah like other said,science subject in STPM is gonna kill some1 if they unable to achieve well for the science subjects in spm.Like me i got 5C for my chemistry,physics and also add maths while bio i got b4 and A1for my maths.I was in form 6 for like 3 weeks and i found science stream is very difficult.The book is so 'tebal' and i found its very hard for me.So,when i got an offer from Uitm to do diploma in business,i am so grateful for that and i found art stream is extremly easier than science.So for my advice to my junior who gonna take f6 this year,i will say dont take science if ur spm result is just so2 like me.aRT STREAM also cool as science science stream and because u will see lots of peluang kerjaya when ure taking art stream and for sure,those who came from science stream.. art is like makan kacang for you

hello.. i'm peggy. it was a good post! i took my SPM results juz few weeks ago. i got 8A's. now i'm confusing where i'm gonna to enter. Form 6 or private U? i've applied foundation in management for private U. but actually, i didn'y study prinsip perakaunan during form 4 n 5. so, i'm not sure whether it's a good choice or not.it's my family's decision. frankly speaking, i don't have any ambition. therefore, many teachers advice me continue wif form 6 n it's not tat costly compare to private U. during form 4, my ambition is to be an engineer. but now, i felt so frustrated of being an engineer coz my physics did not score a distinction. i got B4 in physics. instead, i got A's in chemistry n biology. an engineer must not poor in physics, right?
i'll choose science stream if i enter form 6. but, the problem is which subject i gonna choose? Physics or Biology? although i wish 2 b an engineer, but my physics is so poor. futhermore, physics in form 6 is more difficult, right? then, what should i do? besides, i'm not very interest in biology too. now, i'm so confuse n tire to think bout dis problem i've to face. i'm scared tat i'll not do well in form 6!!! plz give me some comments n guide me what i'm gonna do.. please!! thank you very much n sorry tat my english is so lousy :p

Baby Rose ,
I would say Sejarah is easier .. coz if you study and memorised everything, you will definitely score. But again , this is my personal point of view. :)

Induren,

Hie, thanks for the honest comment. What i was trying to stress here is everytime people like to brag about hw smart science stream kids and tat they are better in the studies.and this is what i strongly disagree.If they are smarter than those in Arts , why most of them couldn't score well in Pengajian AM? If u were to say that the Sc students have more things to study ... but hey, they are smarter rite? They should b able to do it. I am sorry but i still think both Arts and Science are at the same level. Science is about understanding and applying certain situation and Arts is more on theorical.

Anonymous 1,

You know why we got bad results in Science subject? Coz it's som ething u're NOT interested in. The nature is , things we don't like , we just couldn't care less about it.

Anonymous 2,

Yeah..Physics is difficult in Form 6. Are you realy sure engineer is what you wanna do for the rest of your life? If yes, go for it. Take physics in form 6. Nothing comes easy and all these bumps and bruises u go thru.. will earn you your dream - an engineer. The choice is yours. Don't worry about yr english.. mine is nt too good either :)

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dear melanie & friends,

I was very encouraged to go for form 6 after reading melanie's post & your comments. most of my anxieties were answered & I would like to thank you all.

Im also a science stream when i was in form 4 & 5 but I think I gonna switch to art stream in form 6. I was thinking of taking economics as one of the four subjects for STPM. I was wondering, can anyone give me a clearer of picture of what is economics, please? I mean, is it hard and what do you learn in economics? care to share? :)

i just noticed, there's too many spelling errors in my previous comment (up). sorry for that :(

Hie there anonymous. I've been told that economics in form 6 is a total different from the one they studied in form 4 and form 5.economics is divided into macro and micro. Micro is more on personal-used-economics while macro is world and country's . Macro is relatively a lot more difficult . Be prepared to memorised tonnes of graphs. Yes, graphs. I got B for my economics ( micro i got A but my macro was bad so it pull me down to B) so i'm not really a right person to give tips.The funny part about economics is during the exam , i was extremely surprised coz all the questions i spotted didn't came out. so that explains why i got B. hehe... Anyway,don't worry about ur spelling mistakes. this ain't a spelling test!haha! all the best in form 6!

Hai, Melanie.
Firstly , i would like to thank for post this.
After i read it , i felt that what u had said is totally true!! Mostly i agree with u .
And i felt that i gt many things are same with u . my spm result is 5As too.. bt i will go to science steam cz i really lik chem. n i hv two sisters still studying so before finish my f5 i had knew that i going to f6 too.
When all the people or my friend knowing that i going to f6 they all keep saying "DUNT GO !!!F6 IS SO HARD !!.."" Honestly after i had heard this i really sad . cz they are my friend and i need their supportive for me. anyway they nw is support for me.
And now i hv start my tuition classes because as u said there are some lazy teacher . so , i know that study F6 u hv to depend on urself bt not the teacher (if the teacher is bad)
Although now im still feel a little bit scare after entering F6 without any friend. However, i would like to live in a new life too.
At last , hope u can get the best result !!!!
jia you!!!! ( know what is mean?)

Hie there anonymous!

I'm glad my post gives u inspiration!.. Glad to hear u're goin to tuition now. Amazing how you like Chem coz i never like Chem. Never u'stand how to even make a persamaan kimia! haha! Good luck in form 6! I hope you enjoyed it like i did!

hello guys~~~
hehe...actually i was surfing da internet looking 4 sumthin..n then i found dis site talking about da stpm..reading ur comment,suddenly i feel dat i want to share my experience....we have same background lor...during my spm years..i was in da science stream..but i bet dat science did not suit me well...coz i got really bad result for my spm..i only manage get 5A's only..n guess wat??my science subject sucks!!!got c and even d for my physic..aiyak...n i think bcoz of dat...i didn;t got offer for matrikulasi...but i didn't care much coz i think dat i'll get place in local u...but then...sadly i didn't get offer...dat truly makes my life miserable...coz i really don't know wat to do anymore..i'm ashamed with my frenz coz they all get places in uni...but then,my parents actually encouraged me to take stpm...which i dont eva think about dat....haha..then i got persuaded to take stpm...so then my life as a form 6 students begin...actually i've got offer of science stream,but da teacher encouraged me to better change stream to art...ok fine...i started to learn in art subject..i take P.A,ECONS,SEJARAH, n BISNES coz my +math sucks,so i don;t wanna take risk....but i think being in f6 is very enjoyable u know....although its quite tough...ex:econs...its my 1st tyme learning econz..n guess wat??my 1st test fail...but it doesn't matter...i motivated myself dat i actually can do it...i enjoy being in f6...n i think dat count....coz i really wanna improve myself n change my result...n then...it actually pays back...i manage to get 2A n 2A-..i got A for my bisnes and sejarah and A- for P.A n Econs...as being 2 years in f6,i don't think dat i actualy realy hard,its just da same as being in f5,but in stpm...if u study u can score,if not..sorry no 2nd chance...yeah...glad to be in f6....n bcoz of dat result,finally i've got admitted in local u,now curently i'm taking law in local u....gudluck guys!!there's nothing impossible in dis life~~the end

hie there anonymous. wow congrats for your excellent result. The thing u said about form 6 is true - no second chance. Either you pass wit flying colours or u fail miserably. Before i enter form 6, there are some exams that i won't study .. but in form 6 you hate it or like it.. u juz gotta study. i guess one of the main reason is that the exam is 3 hourssss!!!! if u cant do, that 3 hours is the most miserable time of ur life. Btw, u mind to tell me which uni are u in now ? i'm also in a local uni now.maybe we could meet up.

i did quite well in my spm.i also applied for upu n matrix.but it was my faith that i didn't get it.the only chances that i have is taking stpm.but my father didn't agree.he want her daughter to study in local u same as my brother did.i heard from my frenz that if i want to pursue in doctorate i must get 4 flet.is that true..i also wanna know how hard is f6...

hey..
well,i was in science stream in f5 but i didnt get well in 4 my result..then,i decided to take stpm but the thing is i didnt get offered in science stream! art stream it is..i was so dissapointed n depressed.i always wanted to be a biologist,majoring genetics, Genomics. i guess i cant now.i have a really great passion in english n biology.i used to study everything in english when i was in f5..biology,add.math,chem and physics. i hated physics!!
now that i'm in art stream,i'm seriously confused n dunno what sub should i take..more like what is best for me?

i decided to take pa,bm,eco,pp that is offered in pakej A in my school.i wanna take up geography becuz i love gods creations and of coz it's interesting to study.but my school offers it in pakej c which consist of pa,bm,geo,psv...PSV???u've gotta b kidding me!i can barely sketch things, my hands are stiff like twigs!!

so..pakej A it is..but i can hardly like a bussinesman!! all i know is i wanna take up subjects that offers many opportunities to get into Uni and something that i can pursue for the rest of my life...what courses do the Uni offers for pakej A..if anyone can answer...and if i do well in MUET can i take up degree in english linguistic with this pakej a?

plz..someone help me!!

hello again melanie. thanks for answering my question (the one with a lot of spelling errors & was asking about economics).

i changed my mind about taking economics & switched to bm instead. but to be honest, i still cant made up my mind yet. the art subject packages that were offered in my school was ridiculous!!!

i was thinking of talking PA, PP, Eco & BM but my school dont encourage any subject combination other that theirs. my school have 2 packages; BM or Eco; PSV or History. I dont wanna take neither PSV nor History. Im tired of memorizing dead peoples' names & dont have any interest in taking PSV seriously even though im good at it.

im currently stucked with the option of taking PA, PP, BM & History :'(

my question is, what are the courses offer in universities for that type of subject combination other that "perguruan"?

im currently waiting for an official letter from the Jabatan Pendidikan Negeri for my appeal for changing course & still in the science stream (biology). i have no friends in this class because most of my friends (from the same school) chose physics. all of them speak chinese & even though i myself is chinese, i cant speak a damn word T_T (i blame my father for not teaching me chinese when i was young XD). i can only speak english to them :( they must've thought im an alien :D anyway, its difficult to blend in when you're the same race but cant speak the mother tongue...

-Jake-